Hmmm, so basicly a top ten bikes a Bridgetown cycles, YAWN!!!!!!!That was shoite!!!!
I'm more than happy - i've got the trek 1.5
So thanks for posting Conehead, hopefully some other readers will get some use out of it.
personally, i want to know about all those other bikes that might not be leisure, or maybe are and we don't know it - cube, focus (maybe not in price range), boardman, kona, cannondale, planet x, bianchi.. etc...blah... wonk... i appreciate that this may be unrealistic or take several years to undertake!
let's face it though, i now know that if i can work out the wedge for a new bike next spring then i'll be adding a very valuable trip to bridgtown to my own road tests, reading for reviews, looking at bike pr0n on the interweb, that sort of thing.
i'm off to take md6's advice and see how close i can get to that ridley with the change from behind the sofa and under the fridge. under the driver's seat in my car is usually rewarding, too!
MG, I really think you're missing the point here. The advice given from Mike is impartial and in no way suggest to buy from them. I thought the advice was pretty transparent and made sense to me. Your negative feedback (whilst it is your right to have that opinion) is really without foundation.
Would you rather have had Conehead go to Evans where its all about the money? I'm sorry but I would rather have the advice from someone who cares about what you buy and get the most from that product. If I had known what I now know then I would've waited on buying a bike. I know for a fact the geometery is all wrong on my bike but did my LBS tell me that.... no.
I would really likle MG to elaborate on the comments as I feel this needs a full debate amongst the forum.
Conehead.... for the life of me I am struggling to log into the forum on BCTTT. I log in then when I get to the forum its telling me I need to log in.... arrrggghhh....
Anyway - cheers Conehead - I found it enlightening
I'm more than happy - i've got the trek 1.5
If I was in the market for a new bike, I'd definitely be making my way to Bridgtown. Sadly after this years spend the misses has imposed a 'bike-freeze' for some considerable time. I'm guessing about 2020, but she won't tell me.
Until I have the cash to buy a Carbon Beast to keep the Beast company, obviously. Then I'll be availing myself of Mike's assistance. Though he might be waiting a while and shouldn't plan his retirement on my custom
The price point thing holds true across all manufacturers of a similar standard, they are after all in competition with each other for your dollar, the geometry thing will vary, but within parameters there will be a similarity. A more relaxed frame by company A for the leisure market, will not be hugely different at that price point from a leisure frame from company B. So armed with a reference point one can extrapolate. So thanks for putting it together, interesting & useful.
I went to The Tri Centre in Edinburgh and the guys couldn't have been nicer or more helpful.
I think the guys at Bridgetown do not expect us all to go to them - afterall, most people won't be close enough! So I say "thanks!" to Conehead and Bridgetown cycles.
Any hoo I stand by what I said (typed), CHs thread was supposed to be "the definative top ten" with CH suggesting he had got some of the blokes he trains together and got info on their bikes, well, where was that info.............???
I think what most of us expected was a list of bikes that CH had some insider info on from ALL manufacturers and compared them to each other.
So the "top ten bikes from 500-1000" IMO was shoite!! The info that Mike gave was valid well put together and worth reading, but THAT CANNOT be regarded as the definitive earth stopping guide to 500-1000 quid bikes that CH had billed it to be, can it???
Trek bikes are very good but manufacturers like Planet X, Cube, Felt, Focus and even Decathlon make some awesome bikes that are great value and blow the likes of Trek out of the ball park, that was the kind of test/thread I (and a few others I would imagine) was expecting.
So, the comment wasnt aimed at Mike, it was more aimed at CH for a cop-out thread........
I'm sure Treks are good bikes - infact I've just hold of a decent set of Bontrager wheels the Madone comes with and they're super fast.
A bit more insight on the rest of the market would be good.
I too was looking at a lot of debate about Trek, Boardman Carbon, Kiron Scandium, Focus and others that push the £1000. Perhaps we can combine Conehead's advice with our own experiences and start a Top Ten.
so folks when do/did people notice the difference on the groupsets....i.e. Sora versus Tiagra etc, or the difference in hubs/tyres etc...
from my view on many of these entry level bikes apart from choosing a specific frame lots of the other specs seem the same across the board?.....looking to be educated...
Have a gander at this thread theres some interesting points.........
I have a small point to make, what is the "Beef" (as the kids say) with the boardman range? On plenty of other sites (including Cycle Radar who gave the team carbon 5 stars) these bikes are put forward as being a heck of a lot of bike for the money. The Carbon is £999 and so fits perfectly in the 500-1000 range but is always ignored by the Tri community. Is is because they come from Halfrauds?
I am on the very brink of putting a backorder in for one (£1000 of C2W money burning a hole in my back pocket)
Any thoughts? I am extremely interested!!!
I would definately consider a boardman bike, the MTBs too look very good value. 99% of the reviews I've read on Boardman Road bikes have been positive. Ignore where they come from (Halfrauds) because they dont build or design the bikes and just look at the bike for what it is.
I am however gagging for a decent excuse to buy a TT bike!!
but to be honest, folks, who really cares what's in a 'top 10' list? It's only ever a point in time exercise, and rarely objective.
it's not as if one bike is going to be good for all people.
What _would_ be interesting to see would be the top 10 'things to consider when buying a bike'.... e.g. the relative importance of, say, geometry, groupset, weight, frame material..... _that_ at least, would be reasonably static, and of use to people who dont work in the industry.
fwiw, I got a full carbon frame with ultegra groupset for my grand.... but I'm well aware that my aero position is going to have much more impact than the frame weight on a typical OD....
good training to you all,
(oh, and if you're around the Serpie Lido this weekend, say hi!)