HR training - I think I get it now!
Flavadave
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Been using my HR monitor this past couple of weeks after dusting it off and I think I'm in love with it! Yes I'm running slower, but I'm not getting those little niggles and pains I used to get...knee pain, calf pain, shin splints etc etc etc. I'm following the Don Fink plan (BeIronFit) and actually taking my time with it, rather than training before which used to be going out for a 10k run, trying to beat my time every run!
Just thought I'd share it. I know it's not the be all and end all of training and hopefully at some point I'll learn how to train by 'feel' rather than looking at my wrist, but at the moment it's a revelation.
Take it easy (zone 1 and 2)
Dave
Just thought I'd share it. I know it's not the be all and end all of training and hopefully at some point I'll learn how to train by 'feel' rather than looking at my wrist, but at the moment it's a revelation.
Take it easy (zone 1 and 2)
Dave
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Reckon it'll be pretty handy with the build up to Marathon distance this Spring. I try and keep it to 155 and no higher than 165 for long distance and training runs.
I've used it a few times in competition too, in an effort to not go off to fast on the bike and run. What it helps me with most is not trying hard enough at the half way point! I found I was easing off both on the bike and run by 8-10 beats towards the end. The result? New PBs!
I was out on a run yesterday at L2.... couldn't even get my HR close to staying in that zone...at one point it rocketed and I was only just out my flamming door
I'm now investing in a garmin forerunner as I think my HR monitor isn't working correcty...where does the spending end....
Flavadave: Lots of different ways of calculating max HR and working zones. 220- age pretty much considered inaccurate these days. 205 - half age not sure on the evidence but it works out pretty much spot on for me. I work mine out by going for a hard (and I mean hard) interval session. Finish off going flat out for 200m. Highest recorded heart rate in the session is pretty much as high as it is going to get!
You can't afford to be too far out. For me moving from 75% - 80% means HR up by 6 beats.
Will beast myself once the weather clears up a bit to get my max. Don't mind jogging in the snow but sprinting is just asking for me to fall on my ass!
This could also be one of the causes of people hyperventilating at the start of open water swiming,a few strokes to warm the body gets the brain focused,and no panic attacks at the start of the melee.
I have been going out each week like others and busting my ass to get around as quick as possible. I am now think as I got a forunner 405 for xmas that I should look at training in more zones than just zone 5.
Thanks for getting this started Dave.
like you, a half-decent hrm and reading some of that stuff has made me stop charging around thinking that a pb was all that was worth going for in my training sessions.
The hardest part in the first few runs was definitely keeping the HR down. If I lost focus HR went up but the pace was slow and didn't require the same sort of mental concentration of harder runs. After a couple of weeks it became much easier and I was able to work on the other part of the plan - getting the long run upto 2 hours.
Since the turn of the year I have started on the FIRST half marathon schedule. 3 times a week @ fairly high HR. Effort is based more around holding the correct pace than HR, but I am making allowances for hills. The footpod with the Garmin FR60 has been a revelation for doing this as I can actually track my pace.
Without the three months at the end of last year I don't think I would have a chance of sticking with the plan.
My max HR is 201, using the 220-age it should be 191.... big difference.
Plus Running HR's differ from Bike HR's which differ from Swim HR's, Going flat out in the pool my HR only gets upto around 150-160bpm, flat out on the bike is around 188 and flat out running is around 196ish.... They all feel the same intensity on the old PE scale though.
also surprisingly it's amazing how I started to maintain speeds anda low HR thta I was used to getting going flat out..
you will of course have bad session too... when no matter what you do you just can't seem to keep the HR in the correct zone..
Scotty
Then a number of articles i have read seem to combine Z2 and Z3 and give me a trng zone of 107 to 143 and suggest to stay within these limits.....any guidance appreciated...